Islam was created in the 7th century. 600 years after the death & resurrection of Jesus Christ. It was created after “Christianity” was adopted by Rome as the official religion. After the Holy Roman Church went out and conquered land in the name of God, blaspheming Christ. This was not a religion that paralleled Christianity. It came far after.
Islam was created by the prophet Mohammed. He claims to have been visited by the Archangel Gabriel who gave him doctrine to put into a book. The book was later called the Qur’an. From these interactions he now had monotheistic beliefs, however they were quite contrary to the other monotheistic beliefs of the Jews & Christians. They made many claims against the validity of Christ. It was one of those false doctrines that was spoken about to come in the Word.
After the doctrine was solidified, he gathered followers and Islam was born. Mohammed was said to have gone to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem where him and Gabriel were ascended up by a beam of light to visit Allah. After Mohammed’s death on earth, he did not name a successor. This is where the fights between the Sunnis & the Shiites stem from. Who is the true leader of the faith of Islam.
Either way after Mohammed’s death, the religion spread through the Middle East/Persian area. They began to conquer land and grow in size. They believed it all to be because of Allah. They eventually conquered Israel. Being in control of Jerusalem, they built the Dome of the Rock right on the Solomon’s Temple, the Temple Mount. They did this in worship of Mohammed who was able to ascend to Allah from that point.
For over a millennia, Israel was then called Palestine. It was home to Muslims. The land was in possession by Muslims. Their main religion being Islam. It wasn’t until after World War 2, that Israel was given back to the Jews and renamed Israel. Since that happened there has been conflict with Israel & Palestine since.
The story of Islam can be easily seen as a ploy by the devil. By creating this religion he was able to create reasonable doubt for man believing in the one true God. He was able to take possession of Holy Land of God. The Temple Mount is the most holy land in the world. It’s the same spot that Abraham went to go sacrifice Isaac to The Lord. He also created religious wars and persecution in the name of a god.
The Teachings of Muhammad vs. Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
Muhammad said : Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam (Qur’an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38
Jesus said God loves everyone. (John 3:16)
Muhammad said “I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” (Muslim 1:33)
Jesus said “He who lives by the sword will die by the sword” (Matthew 26:52)
Muhammad stoned women for adultery. (Sahih Muslim 4206)
Jesus said “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” (John 8:7)
Muhammad permitted stealing from unbelievers (Bukhan 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
Jesus said “Thou shalt not steal” (Matthew 19:18)
Muhammad permitted lying (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
Jesus said “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” (Matthew 19:18)
Muhammad owned and traded slaves (Sahih Muslim 3901)
Jesus neither owned nor traded slaves.
Muhammad murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
Jesus preached forgiveness.
Muhammad said “If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him.” (Qur’an 2:194)
Jesus said “If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” (Matthew 5:39)
Muhammad said “Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one’s position in Paradise by a hundred fold.” (Muslim 4645)
Jesus said “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God.” (Matthew 5:9)
Muhammad married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur’an 33:50)
Jesus was celibate.
Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
Jesus was very angry if anyone harmed any child “Matthew 28:6 But those who shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea”
Muhammad ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
Jesus never harmed a woman.
Muhammad said “O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.” (Qur’an 3:110)
Jesus said “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth.” (Matthew 5:5)
Muhammad ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq)
Jesus ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence.
Muhammad killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451)
Jesus never took captives; never killed anyone.
Muhammad encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawud 2150, Qur’an 4:24)
Jesus never encouraged rape; never enslaved women.
Muhammad was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
Jesus suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.
Muhammad said “And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah.” (Qur’an 8:39)
Jesus said “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” (Matthew 5:44)
Muhammad ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743)
Jesus washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5)
Muhammad demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship. (Qur’an 4:102)
Jesus chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12)
Muhammad advocated crucifying others. (Qur’an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
Jesus was crucified himself.
According to his followers, Muhammad had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413)
Jesus gave his life for the world (John 3:17)
Hi beloved Mohamed.
Please read this until it makes sense. read 4&5 then go to 9&10 then got 14. Jesus Christ loves you.
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Hello there,
I just wanted to say that I am pleased to see two honest, God fearing men discuss and agree to disagree like gentlemen. I wish more of our brothers and sisters could do the same.
Hi mohh ,pls I want you to believe the truth about the word of God ,that is the Bible.God was never the only behind mohammed and the koran,Islam is a deception of the devil so as to take people away from the salvation provided by God through Christ.pls speak to God Almighty to help you with this dilemma. Look closely at the life of prophet of Islam closely and don’t judge him by what the Koran or hadith says but by your own mind,you ‘ll see that God can not deal with this kind of man
Also the bible never said God was sending any other person,the world of salvation was finished by Chr ist on the cross
Dear James,
Thank you for your article. There are many misconceptions and falsehoods in the world but the Quran is truly the word of God and Islam is the religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohamed. I feel that you are a genuine seeker of the truth and therefore I urge you to read the Quran and learn more about Islam. Insah’allah – God willing – you will see that the Quran is a confirmation of the Torah and the Bible. However, the Quran also addresses some falsehoods that men of ill will have added to the Torah and to the Bible. For example the whole narrative of the prophet Jesus – peace be on him – being God or the son of God. He is neither. He was a human messenger of God, born in a miraculous way to a virgin righteous human mother and who with God’s will and in God’s name performed many miracles. He also did not die at the cross. God is fair, just and merciful. It would not be fair to punish the most pure of humans for the sins of others. Nor would it be just to allow his enemies to harm him. God saved Jesus Christ and he escaped from the Romans. He then returned to inform his disciples that his mission has been completed (what some call the resurrection, was simply a return from hiding). And finally he was summoned by God to Heaven (Ascension). He thus did not die!
I wish you all the best. There is only one true religion, the religion of the one true God. God has sent many human prophets to inform mankind, a few were chosen to also bring us a book. David the psalms, Moses the torah, Jesus the Bible and Mohamed the Quran. All speak one truth: There is no other God but the one true God. Allah the God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ismael, David, Moses, Jesus and Mohamed. And many others mentioned in scriptures and some not narrated of.
Best wishes,
Hello there, Mohamed.
I want you to know that I pray for you and care about you. I pray that you will some day see that Islam is not a religion that connects with Judaism or Christianity. It was made by the Lucifer, who disguised himself as Archangel Gabriel and lied to Prophet Mohamed. This lie was spread by the Prophet without his knowledge, and it caused confusion and war among people. Don’t believe me? Read all the verses in the Quran that talk about murder and taking slaves. Read all the verses about child-marriages and killing “infidels” (Christians and Jews).
I hope you will some day see that Islam was only made to confuse people. Read the Quran, and see how it is a corrupted version of the Torah. Names, places, people are changed and distorted. Lies are spun, and anyone who argues against it is persecuted and killed. Don’t believe me? There are 1.5 million Christians in Saudi Arabia, a Muslim country. Yet there aren’t any churches for them to worship in, and they are frequently killed if they try to ask.
If Islam is the religion of peace, why is a Muslim killed when he tries to leave the religion? Why can’t Muslims marry Christians or Jews if the religion is the same?
I pray to the only God that you will some day see the deception and free yourself. Find the truth, do some research. And remember that God loves you. God bless.
Dear AJ,
Thank you for your prayers and well wishes. I too pray that Allah may bless you and give you guidance.
Please do read the Quran, you will notice that the Quran references both the Torah and the Gospel as well as the prophet Moses and the prophet Jesus. In fact, the prophet Moses is mentioned more frequently in the Quran than the prophet Mohamed.
I particularly draw your attention to surah number 2 verse 62
which translates to:
Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] – those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness – will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.
I have read the Quran many times and can assure you, that your statements about murder and slaves are not correct. Murder is prohibited in Islam just as it is in Judaism and Christianity. War and the killing of an enemy is only justified in self defense if attacked. Killing is also justified after due process by a legitimate authority as a capital punishment of a criminal who has committed murder. The Torah teaches the same.
The Jewish religion, the Torah, the message of Moses is nothing more than a continuation of the teachings of Noah, Abraham and many other prophets and messengers that came before Moses. Please note that Noah, Abraham and all other patriarchs before Jacob/Israel are neither Jews nor Christians. Their message is and was the message of Allah and addresses all of Mankind. Allah by the way is the Arabic name of the one and only God. Arabic speaking Christians like the Coptic and the Maronite also refer to God as ‘ALLAH’.
God’s message as brought by all those who came before Moses was unfortunately lost and the false religions and gods and all the evil that comes with that prevailed again just it did before the great flood.
Allah, the almighty God then chose the Jewish people who then were enslaved by the Pharao’s of Egypt as the people from who to choose his next messenger – Moses – to reintroduce God’s word to Mankind.
Moses aided by his brother Aron and guided by God then miraculously succeeded in liberating the Jews from their bondage; defeated the Pharaoh of Egypt(who at that time was the most powerful person leading the most power nation on Earth)and generations later the Jews – under King Solomon – became the mightiest nation on Earth. Sadly the Jews (as a nation) then transgressed. They fought among themselves, split Judaism up in Sects and many of their High Priests – seeking to obtain power – first monopolized access to the word of God (the sacred scrolls) to themselves, corrupted it, replaced it with their own words (the Talmud) and then declared the word and path of God to be exclusive to Jews only. A big sin indeed for God, his word, path and mercy is for all Mankind.
Jesus, the son of the virgin Mary was then sent by God to correct this. He confronted the Jewish High Priests and once again made God’s word and mercy available to all humans.
However, Satan and his helpers once again tried to lead Mankind astray. He corrupted the Christian beliefs and incited Christians to worship Jesus instead of God. A sin and tragedy.
God then sent prophet Mohamed and the Quran so as to – for once and for all – bring guidance to all who seek guidance.
As to what you say about Saudi Arabia, that is a matter of national law. There are many Islamic countries such as Turkey and Egypt where you can find many Churches.
Finally, please note that Muslims are allowed to marry Jews or Christians, as a matter of fact one of the wife’s of prophet Mohamed was a Christian.
Please do let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. Happy to answer as best as I can insha’allah.
I wish you well. May God bless you and bring you truth.
I appreciate your research, friend. I do know that the term “ALLAH” is used among Coptic Christians as well. However, here is one thing I must disagree with you on. You say that worshiping Jesus is technically a sin because he is not God. And I will tell you that, if you conduct further research, you will find that Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit are three separate beings, but one at the same time. This may seem a little confusing, but the basic point is that this is the Trinity (the unification of these three).
Please use this link to learn more about this concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G2S5ziDcO0&authuser=0
I hope you will watch it and get a basic understanding. Jesus is not a separate individual. He is God born in flesh, born to die for our sins so that whoever believes in him will have eternal life. No more animal sacrifices or burnt offerings, Jesus Chirst was the ultimate sacrifice. I want you to realize that he died for you, because he loved you so much that he was willing to take your burdens upon himself and wash the corruption away with his won blood.
Please realize that Jesus loves you more than anyone could. He loved you and cared so much for you that he was willing to die on a cross in a brutal and painful way so that you would never have to go through the same fate. Remember a quote from the Bible: “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him may not perish, but have eternal life.”
Also, please remember that the “Father, Son, Holy Ghost” concept is explained in the Trinity. I suggest you do some research about this and learn about why Christians worship Jesus, instead of calling it a “sin and tragedy”. You have to learn more about this topic before more discussions can take place.
God bless you, brother. May the Father’s blessings shine upon you, and be gracious unto you.
Dear friend,
Please allow me to direct to you to the bible, in particular the book of Deuteronomy: http://biblescripture.net/Deuteronomy.html
“Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.”
And also God’s first of ten commandments given to Moses:
“I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Thou shalt have none other gods before me.”
This is confirmed in the Quran in surah 112 which translates as follows:
Say, he is Allah who is one
Allah who is the eternal, the absolute
He neither begets nor is born
Nor is there to Him any equivalent
So the trinity concept is not so much difficult to comprehend, it is just simply false.
God is one, he is the almighty, the omnipresent, the all encompassing, the eternal, the one and only God … Not three.
As to the explanation of the trinity concept in the Carl Sagan video, I am sorry to say that he does a poor job in explaining it!
Yes, it is possible to imagine 4, 5, 7 or even 11 dimensions but there are still only three spacial dimensions. If one wishes to go from the mathematical abstract of a higher degree dimensional object to a concrete example of such then one needs to define the additional, non-spacial, dimensions or attributes. For example, time or color or taste or smell or weight or speed etc.
A visualization of the trinity concept can be given in a much easier way than he does by for example using the metaphor of a cube with an LED lamp in it. The lamp can emit 3 different colors – let’s say white, red and blue – and does so in a round robin fashion. When observed for an instant the cube is emitting white, red or blue light. When observed for a prolonged period of time one can notice the change from white to red to blue and back to white again. One entity, three different manifestations. Another metaphor can be water that can appear as liquid water, as an ice cube or as water vapor.
So, the problem with the trinity concept is not that it is hard to comprehend; the problem is that it does not apply for God.
God is one. Christ never ordered anyone to worship Christ. Christ ordered all of us to worship God and God alone just as Moses, Noah, Abraham, Mohamed and all the other prophets have ordered us to do. To do otherwise is a big sin, it is a breach of God’s first commandment as given to us through Moses.
May God bless you my friend and give you his guidance.
My good friend, I think that both of us have pieces of the right message to say. But I suppose our messages differ in only one thing; perspective. You tell the Bible from your perspective, and I tell it from mine. But when the time comes, I suppose we’ll just have to see who was right in the end.
I am going to say, first of all, that most of what you say is true. But there are plenty of things that I will disagree with (e.g. the Trinity, divinity of Jesus Christ etc.)We could go back and forth about this argument. But I think we should just be patient and wait until the End Times are near. Then I suppose our argument would be settled.
Whether you believe it or not, Jesus Christ loves you and cares for you. No mortal man would love a person so much that he would suffer such great lengths. And whether you believe Jesus Christ and God are the same or not, I pray God will give you guidance and wisdom. I pray he will give you his love and grace. I pray you will lead a noble life and learn to love all people. Each person has his/her own burden to carry, and some day God will lighten it. I pray you will be anointed by God and showered with his blessings. I pray you will be a good person, a person who walks I the way of God. And most of all ,I pray that some day these religious arguments will finally have answers that satisfy all of us.
That’s all I have to say. God bless you, brother.
Thank you dear friend. May God bless us all with his guidance.
Hi Mohamad
It is almost a year later and I noticed your message, may I please provide you with light on the matter regarding Yashua known in english as Jesus. You pointed out to AJ the following Deuteronomy:
“Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.”
What you need to understand is that in original hebrew God is “Elohim” which is plural not singular, the singular word would have have been “El”. Which puts a whole new perspective to your verse in Deuteronomy, as God was always referred to in plural rather than singular in the original hebrew indicating he is indeed more than 1 as Jesus and the holy spirit have always existed.
You will also notice that Jesus fulfills many prophecies in the old testament, which proves that he is the messiah and the gospels accounts of Jesus proves his divinity.
When Jesus dies on the cross he tore the vale of separation and made salvation through Jesus available to everyone not only Jews but the gentiles as well which means he reconciled what you refer to as sin by Jews who said the path to God is only through Judaism so Muhammad was not needed for that.
So as you can see above Muhammad was not needed cause there is no lie, Elohim is was and will always be more than 1 that is why he is Elohim in hebrew. And God gave salvation through his son for all who believe in his name, are baptized and keep the command of the father.
So when those who are of the way give thanks to the father in the name Yahshua they are not sinning as Yahweh is Elohim (plural).
Now what about what is said in the old and new testament of the bible. Elohim is very very strict about pagan worship, customs even not wanting us to even prau the way pagans do. How then can the Kabba in Mecca where Chief God Hubbal was worshipped among over 200 hundreds deities be the holiest place in the world?
You know the truth in your heart and it is clear you have done research on all things, do not harden your heart towards Jesus. As AJ said he loves you and it is not to late to pick up your cross and follow him
Dear Dane Smith,
as to your second comment, please note that the holy Quran orders all true believers to believe in God and to respect all his prophets equally.
See Quran Chapter 3 verse 48 which transliterates as:
Say, “We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the tribes, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him.”
As to the Kaaba in Mecca. It was built by Abraham as a house of God, then abused by the pagan Arabs as pantheon for the Pagan Arab idols and then later cleansed and restored as the house of the one and only God by the Muslims.
Best wishes,
Mohamed
Dear Dane Smith,
Tried replying to this comment before but somehow something went wrong.
Elohim can be singular or plural. In this particular case (“Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.”) it is clearly meant in the singular form. This emphasized by the “the Lord is One”part
Best regards,
Mohamed
Hi Mohammed
Thanks for your response, I say this with all love, care and gentleness. The verse “the Adon is our Elohom, The Adon is one” shows that he is more than one but still one as in a Tri-Union God. Elohim is primarily used as plural to the word El, why would moses not just have used singular? I will refer to other scriptures which implies Elohim is Tri-union.
Genesis 11:7 “come let us God down and confuse their tongues” who is us Elohim refers to? In the scriptures after that it says the Adon confused their tongue not the Adon and the angles, so Elohim speaks of himself as “us” not me. Once again plural
Genesis 1:26 “let us make man in our image and likeness” once again referring to himself as us. Nowhere in the scriptures does it state angles are made in his image and likeness.
Genesis 3:15 is where God tells us his seed will walk the earth and be in emnity with satans seed. If Elohims seed walks the earth then surely Jesus is the son of God. He is fulfillment of over 300 prophecies in the torah.
Genesis 3:22 “behold the man has become like one of us”
So there are many verses which suplicate Elohim being plural rather than singular. The problem comes in translation to English but once again if you seek you shall find the truth.
Regarding what you said about Muhammad, I don’t want to be disreptful in any way or manner. But even if you go on to Wikipedia you will see that the Kaaba and the worship of hubal and over 200 deities at the Kaaba in Mecca happened before 630a.d when Muhammad established Islam. The Quraysh worshipped at the Kaaba and Muhammad came and conquered them and then got rid of hubal and all the deities then dedicated the structure to Allah.
I do not say these to offend you but this history has been well documented.
I’ve read the story about Yashua (Jesus) in the Quran, Muhammad lived 600 years after Jesus died and the story is very different from the Jesus in the bible. Jesus in the bible is written about and witness by John, Luke, Mark, Matthew, Saul of tarsus to name a few. You are a smart man from what I can tell, if you were in a court of law would you believe a story that has 1 witness or a story that has many?
I say all this in love and kindness, Elohim was very strict that he does not want any form of paganism in worship of him. He sent his only begotten son to die for us so that we, including you Mohamad might be saved.I pray in the power of the holy spirit that Elohim will place it on your heart to seek further and find and accept the truth so that you may receive salvation through Christ.
Be blessed
My apologies I left out that there are no historical accounts of Abraham having built the Kaaba. Also no evidence that Abraham went to Mecca at all. If he built a house to worship God surely there would be conclusive historical evidence besides Quran. Once again I say this in love and kindness I mean no disrespect
Dear Dane Smith,
I respectfully disagree with your assessments. In most languages, including the english language there is besides the singular and plural from also something called the majestic plural form (also known as “the royal we”). In the Bible this is used in relationship with God. It is also often used by kings and queens.
Have a look at this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
Note in particular the Grammer and etymology section.
Grammar and etymology
Further information: El (deity), Ilah, and Allah
Elohim is a grammatically plural noun for “gods” or “deities” in Biblical Hebrew. In Hebrew, the ending -im normally indicates a masculine plural. However, when referring to the Hebrew God, Elohim is usually understood to be grammatically singular (i.e. it governs a singular verb or adjective). In Modern Hebrew, it is often referred to in the singular despite the -im ending that denotes plural masculine nouns in Hebrew.[3][4]
It is generally thought that Elohim is derived from eloah, the latter being an expanded form of the Northwest Semitic noun ’il.[5] The related nouns eloah (אלוה) and el (אֵל) are used as proper names or as generics, in which case they are interchangeable with elohim.[5] The term contains an added heh as third radical to the biconsonantal root. Discussions of the etymology of elohim essentially concern this expansion. An exact cognate outside of Hebrew is found in Ugaritic ʾlhm, the family of El, the creator god and chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon, in Biblical Aramaic ʼĔlāhā and later Syriac Alaha (“God”), and in Arabic ʾilāh (“god, deity”) (or Allah as “The [single] God”).
“El” (the basis for the extended root ʾlh) is usually derived from a root meaning “to be strong” and/or “to be in front”.[5]
Dear Dane Smith,
Whether you (or anyone else) believe the Kaaba was built by Abraham or not is not really important.
What is important is to know that there is only one God. The creator of the Heavens and the Earth and all that is in between. There is no God besides him, the one and only almighty God. He has no associates nor offspring. Worship only Him. That was and remains the main message of all his prophets and messengers. Including the prophets Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohamed.
May God bless you and guide you to the truth.
Best wishes,
Mohamed
Hi Mohamad
That is amazing and very intelligent, but you if you do slight history on grammar rules, you will find that you can not use grammar rules in this instance as they were created well after Moses wrote Genesis and the wikipedia page which you directed me to clearly states “In modern Hebrew” this has been accepted as singular .
When it comes to scripture we should never isolate verses,add to scripture or remove from scripture. I added multiple verses from Genesis which supplicates that the name Elohim was meant to be plural by Moses rather than singular.
Once again Elohim is One but he is 3, this is not easy to understand but for us to imply Moses “actually meant it to be singular” would be to take away from scripture and to question the prophet Moses. This would also mean that by assuming when Elohim refers to himself as “Us” he meant him and the angles would also be adding to scripture.
To add Muhammad to your list of prophets would also be adding to scripture, surely based on the following Muhammad has generated there would be scripture and prophecy about him? To ignore the many prophecies in the old testament about Jesus and then ignore the witness accounts of his ministry and of his resurrection and divinity would also be to take away from scripture.
Once again I do not say these to offend you Mohamad, and I also hope that I have not. If I have I apologize as I can tell you a man of respect and the way you have peacefully given us your message is amazing.
Truthunedited has a youtube channel called History of religion and it is very enlightening. You and yours are in my prayers Mohamad.
Be blessed.
Dear Dane Smith,
Thank you for your kind words and prayers. I really value our exchange, even if we do not agree on all points, I think it is still important to exchange views and information so as to try to better understand each other. God is great and God is kind, insha’allah he will guide us to the truth.
Please note that the prophet Mohamed is the messenger of God and that the Quran is the word of God. Mohamed, like Moses and Jesus is a descendant of Abraham. Moses and Jesus descend from Abraham through his son Isaac while Mohamed descends from Abraham through his son Ismael.
Mohamed is mentioned in Isaiah 42:
Behold, My Servant, whom I uphold; My chosen one in whom My soul delights. I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the nations. 2 “He will not cry out or raise His voice, Nor make His voice heard in the street. 3 “A bruised reed He will not break And a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish; He will faithfully bring forth justice. 4 “He will not be disheartened or crushed Until He has established justice in the earth; And the coastlands will wait expectantly for His law.
— Isaiah 42:1-4
You may not know this but Mohamed is frequently referred to in the Quran as God’s messenger and faithful servant. He was soft spoken and noted for his honesty, patience, justice and perseverance.
Mohamed and the Quran were sent by God to fix the errors that had crept into Christianity just as that Jesus and the Gospel were sent to correct the errors that had crept in Judaism. The biggest error that had crept in Judaism was that it was made elitist. All non Jews were excluded from God’s mercy. Jesus corrected that and reiterated that God is there for all Mankind.
But he never claimed divinity. That was falsely attributed to him. Probably under the influence of Roman believes of multiple gods and demigods. Just as that the Roman practice to worship idols representing their gods and demigods resulted in the Roman Catholic Church introducing statues of Jesus, Mary and the apostles and tolerated that these statues be revered and prayed to. And just as that the Roman fondness of pork meat resulted in the Roman Catholic Church allowing the consumption of pork whereas the Torah clearly prohibits it. The Quran corrects these mistakes by pointing out that Jesus is a man not a God, that worship is restricted to God alone and that pork meat should not be eaten.
May God bless you my friend.
Hi Mohamad
It has truly been amazing, even though we disagree on many points our discussion has taught me and given me perspective and new gained respect for you and all Muslims. I think the most important thing is we understand each other and are honestly seeking the father and to do his will.
Regarding the text you provided by Isiah the below was witnessed by both Matthew and Mark.
Matthew 12:11-21
11 He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”13 Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. 14 But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.15 Aware of this, Jesus withdrew from that place. A large crowd followed him, and he healed all who were ill. 16 He warned them not to tell others about him. 17 This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah:
18 “Here is my servant whom I have chosen,
the one I love, in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will proclaim justice to the nations.
19 He will not quarrel or cry out;
no one will hear his voice in the streets.
20 A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out,
till he has brought justice through to victory.
21 In his name the nations will put their hope.”[a
Mark 3:4-7
4 Then Jesus asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they remained silent.5 He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. 6 Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus.7 Jesus withdrew with his disciples to the lake, and a large crowd from Galilee followed.
I fully agree with your points regarding what the Catholic church has done, they have mixed pagan customs and beliefs with Christianity. This is where the many misconceptions come from, this was done by Constantine at the council of nicea and directly led to many pagan practices being done by the Church till this day and age as well as other false doctrinal practices (Christmas, Easter, Tithing, Baby baptism).
But that is not Christianity, they do not represent the teachings of Jesus and the apostles when they established The Church (Known as “The way” or “Set apart ones”). We do believe in the Father, that he is our first love and to not worship any other God and we do believe in the One true God.
When studying the scripture (Torah) it is clear that we can not be saved by the law, the law judges by making us aware of our sins and fails to bring us to redemption with the most high. That is why Jesus, was the unblemished lamb who died for our sins so that through belief in him and keeping the commands we can receive salvation and be redeemed.
Remember that through 1 man sin entered the world, so it is no surprise that through 1 man sin can also be defeated. Christ was born of the spirit of God, if man is made Gods image and likeness and we as man have both soul, spirit and consciousness then that must mean the same of God.
Jesus is the word of God in the flesh, Gods consciousness in the flesh born of his spirit through Mary the virgin. In my body I have my soul, spirit and I am a conscious being one difference is It is all inside my fleshly body. So The Father, Son and the Spirit are 1.
I hope this brings you more clarity on Jesus, his divinity and why he was needed to bring salvation.
Be blessed my friend.